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		<title>Watch out DC, Marvel may have cracked the Legacy hero nut</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onefinemess</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While DC has been busy killing its legacy heroes and sticking them in matchboxes, killing/resurrecting/de-titling and de-aging them, and bringing back the originals (Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Superman, Batman, etc. &#8211; there are still a couple of legacies left in Justice Society), Marvel is swinging for the fences with the new/current Captain America. Of course [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While DC has been busy killing its legacy heroes and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28comics%29#Ryan_Choi" target="_blank">sticking them in matchboxes</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Allen#Death_.26_Legacy" target="_blank">killing/resurrecting/de-titling and de-aging</a> them, and bringing back the originals (Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Superman, Batman, etc. &#8211; there <em>are</em> still a couple of legacies left in Justice Society), Marvel is swinging for the fences with the new/current Captain America.</p>
<p>Of course they brought back the old one&#8230; but he didn&#8217;t take the title back (yet)!</p>
<p>I suspect they planned on Steve Rogers taking the title back when he returned, but Bucky-Cap worked out so well (especially with the fans) that they stuck with it.  It would be awesome to see this last&#8230; don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll pull a DC eventually.  But &#8211; if they wait too long&#8230; this generation of readers will get used to Bucky as Cap &#8211; the longer they wait, the harder it is to undo.   Hopefully.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a new Black Panther (T&#8217;Challa&#8217;s sister) but of course, the original is still around, just in another role &#8211; I expect him to take the title back eventually too.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many heroes this can work for in Marvel either.  In addition to those two, I *think* you could pull off something like this for Iron Man, or maybe the Hulk (since he&#8217;s got so damn many kids now &#8211; 3 full grown kids, all in the span of a year or two.  Not bad eh?  I still don&#8217;t understand the Hiro-Kala angle though).</p>
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		<title>random comic thoughts</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onefinemess</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Loeb really annoys me. So there was the fiasco with Red Hulk (let&#8217;s call him &#8220;BullshitHulk&#8221; for short) doing some sort of idiotic shit with gravity in order to &#8220;hold&#8221; Thor&#8217;s hammer.  That was dumb. Then evil murdering Magneto in Ultimate land can somehow just stroll around holding it? OK, maybe his hammer is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jeff Loeb really annoys me.</strong></p>
<p>So there was the fiasco with Red Hulk (let&#8217;s call him &#8220;BullshitHulk&#8221; for short) doing some sort of idiotic shit with gravity in order to &#8220;hold&#8221; Thor&#8217;s hammer.  That was dumb.</p>
<p>Then evil murdering Magneto in Ultimate land can somehow just stroll around holding it?</p>
<p>OK, maybe his hammer is just a toy/false hammer/something over there in Ultimate land&#8230; but it&#8217;s still annoying.</p>
<p><strong>Resurrecting Steve Rogers/Captain America really annoys me.</strong></p>
<p>Marvel stuck its balls out there with killing him &#8211; and at least did it better than DC did with Superman or Batman, but now it looks like they are undoing everything like a bunch of pansies.  The leaste they could have done was use the Truth version &#8220;original cap&#8221; instead of Steve. Sigh.  Whatever.</p>
<p><strong>The Batman death was horribly executed.</strong></p>
<p>Seriously.  How unclear was that?  A &#8220;fake&#8221; death in the main series that led to a death in the crossover series that happened in the wrong sequence?  Or some junk?  I don&#8217;t remember really.  Revealing ALREADY that Bruce is still alive is really dumb.  I mean, we know DC has even less balls than Marvel when it comes to these things, and Bruce WILL be back &#8211; but don&#8217;t show us that already!</p>
<p><strong>Cosmic comics in the big two are having a mini-golden age</strong></p>
<p>Marvel AND DC are both putting out some killer &#8220;cosmic&#8221; books these days.  The whole Annihilation cycle at Marvel was awesome, almost every issue buy-worthy (I waited for the trades), and DC didn&#8217;t isn&#8217;t doing too shabby lately either with the current Green Lantern &amp; Corps &amp; Co. incarnations &#8211; The Sinestro War was excellent, as was almost everything between then and now leading up to Blackest Night.</p>
<p>Sure, I think Hal Jordan is tired and played out as a character, should have stayed dead, and John &amp; Kyle should still be the main GL, but that&#8217;s probably just because I&#8217;m a later generation of GL reader.  &#8220;Legacies&#8221; were the one thing I really valued in DC over Marvel, then they went and shat on both their functional legacies (GL &amp; Flash, both resurrected) while Marvel showed some big balls in creating a legacy character out of Captain America (and potentially Black Panther, but I don&#8217;t think that will last).  So yeah, ignoring that I don&#8217;t like Hal Jordan as a character, Geoff Johns &amp; co are turnning in stellar (no pun intended) work over there &#8211; if I had cash flowing like water I&#8217;d actually buy this stuff &#8211; and I did buy the Sinestro War finale&#8230;probably the only DC book I&#8217;ve bought in ages.  Some people are turned off by the whole &#8220;Rainbow Corps&#8221; thing, but I love it &#8211; it&#8217;s &#8220;wide-screen space opera&#8221; at it&#8217;s best.</p>
<p>Back over on the Marvel front the new Guardians of the Galaxy book is awesome  &#8211; it&#8217;s only had 1 slow issue out of 12 so far, and the new Nova book is very good as well.  Not to mention War of Kings &#8211; THAT SHIT is looking awesome so far.  The Darkhawk branch seems a little weak thus far, but I suspect that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s from a different writer.</p>
<p>One thing both cosmic universes have in common is that they&#8217;ve both got a heavy guiding hand in the way of being driven by one creative team &#8211; Geoff Johns @ DC &amp; Abnett &amp; Lanning for Marvel.  The internal consistency and continuity generated by having a whole line orchestrated by a single point of contact is really beautiful in the way that just sharing an editor isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><strong>I just re-read the entire Grant Morrison X-Men run this weekend.</strong></p>
<p>And it still stands up quite well.  In hindsight, the only thing that bugs me about it was the poor characterization of Magneto.  It&#8217;s not <em>entirely </em>his fault though, as he was just following up on a few years of shitty mcshitty Magneto writing.  Honestly, I think Mags shined best under Claremont &#8211; he was a real character that you could empathize with and still think was wrong.  I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ve seen a post-Claremont Magneto story that I actually liked.  Some, like the Joseph clone thing, were *decent* but not good/excellent.  Morrison&#8217;s writing was topnotch, and I can buy him being Xorn in disguise &#8211; sure sure, except the issue from Xorn&#8217;s perspective where he&#8217;s hanging out with the Chinese dude &#8211; that issue makes me think he just pulled the Magneto thing out of his ass near the end.</p>
<p>One thing he definitely did right was Emma &amp; Emma/Scott.  Which brings me to my final point.</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m afraid all this Dark X-Men/Osborn bullshit is going make Emma obnoxious and useless and uninteresting again.</strong></p>
<p>Just a hunch, we&#8217;ll see.  I like her and Scott together, breaking them up and injecting all this unecessary drama annoys me.</p>
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