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		<title>No, being a child molester is NOT the same as being gay</title>
		<link>http://onefinemess.rhinopanda.net/2009/10/22/no-being-a-child-molester-is-not-the-same-as-being-gay/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onefinemess</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s take a trip down shit-logic lane, shall we? Man molests pre-pubescent boy. Therefore, man must be attracted to males. Therefore, man is gay. Therefore, all/most gays are child molesters. Now, of course we can all point out the obvious logical fallacy involved in traversing the gulf between steps 3 and 4, right? If not, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a trip down shit-logic lane, shall we?</p>
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<li>Man molests pre-pubescent boy.</li>
<li>Therefore, man must be attracted to males.</li>
<li>Therefore, man is gay.</li>
<li>Therefore, all/most gays are child molesters.</li>
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<p>Now, of course we can all point out the obvious logical fallacy involved in traversing the gulf between steps 3 and 4, right?</p>
<p>If not, please don&#8217;t call me.  Ever.</p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;m going to dwell briefly on the more interesting breakdown of the brain between steps 1 &amp; 2.</p>
<p>Oh wait, first, lets run the same logic train on a man who molested a little girl (which never happens, right?!):</p>
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<li>Man molests pre-pubescent girl.</li>
<li>Therefore, man must be attracted to girls.</li>
<li>Therefore, man is straight.</li>
<li>Therefore, all/most straights are child molesters.</li>
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<p>Oooo.  <em>It burns doesn&#8217;t it?</em> It should.  If not, pick up your phone &#8211; and don&#8217;t call me.</p>
<p>An average gay man, just like an average straight man, is attracted to people on the post- side of that wacky, sticky river of puberty.   The entrances just don&#8217;t completely overlap.   Hey &#8211; no harm, no foul eh?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get something straight:</p>
<p><strong>There is a huge gulf between pre- and post- pubescence.  You should not be sexually attracted to someone on the pre- side of that river<em>.</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>If you are, you are psychologically, hormonally, biologically (ETC!) damaged and should be kept away from children.</strong></p>
<p><strong><em>THE END</em>.</strong></p>
<p>So please, TV ads and ignorant people in general, please shut the fuck up with the &#8220;protect the children from the gays!&#8221; bullshit.  Your logic is insulting, not to mention insulting.</p>
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		<title>Dubai, Detroit &amp; homosexuality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>onefinemess</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dubai may be going the way of Detroit&#8230;except on a different kind of scale.  (Should we call it &#8220;Dubait&#8221; if that happens?) Check out this story for a dose of serious reality.- This article marks the first place I&#8217;ve seen the phrase &#8220;the Noughties&#8221; &#8211; which I fear will become the phrase for this decade. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dubai may be going the <a href="http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090308/BIZ03/903080323" target="_blank">way</a> of <a href="http://reliques.online.fr/detroit/detroit00.html" target="_blank">Detroit</a>&#8230;except on a different kind of scale.  (Should we call it &#8220;Dubait&#8221; if that happens?)</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html" target="_blank">this story</a> for a dose of serious reality.-</p>
<p>This article marks the first place I&#8217;ve seen the phrase &#8220;the Noughties&#8221; &#8211; which I fear will become <em>the phrase </em>for this decade. I mean, it makes sense, but the double meaning is still kind of annoying.</p>
<p>Another point of interest, and one I&#8217;m going to focus on (although mostly unrelated to Dubai specifically) is this description of young male life in Saudi Arabia:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>In Saudi, it&#8217;s hard to be straight when you&#8217;re young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want </strong><strong>to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I&#8217;m 27, so I&#8217;m too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai.</strong></p></blockquote>
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<p>I recall seeing a documentary on sexuality abroad at some point, that mentioned this point.  I&#8217;ve talked about it with people and had them look at me like I was crazy.  But, come on people &#8211; this makes perfect sense.  Humans are sexual (especially young boys!!!) &#8211; deny them girls, and what happens (see: prison)?</p>
<p>I think the same documentary mentioned that something similar happens in India &#8211; basically it&#8217;s <em>very common </em>for young boys to have sex with other young boys &#8211; but this is &#8220;just sex&#8221;, and it&#8217;s very unmanly to have actual romantic feelings toward these boys..or something like that.  So it&#8217;s something you do up until you have access to a woman &#8211; marriage &#8211; although sometimes it continues discreetly after that (I imagine if you&#8217;re used to the same lover for 6-8 years it may be hard to give that up&#8230;.).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always found this whole &#8220;I&#8217;ll fuck a dude when I need it, but I&#8217;m not gay!&#8221; dichotomy amazing.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I believe that they aren&#8217;t technically gay (as in romantically attracted to men) &#8211; but come on man, wtf?  Because, for a lot of people on the outside &#8211; it seems to be the sex that really defines gays and makes them so damn scary (some religions allow gays so long as they aren&#8217;t &#8220;succumbing to their darker nature&#8221; and whatnot).</p>
<p>I think that this shows that it&#8217;s not so much the sex (especially with a decent # of straight folks trying the back door loving these days&#8230;) &#8211; but somehow the thought of a man <em>loving </em>another man that is making folks feel threatenend and emasculated.  I really don&#8217;t get it.  Is it that one of them has to be some kind of subordinate and men just <em>aren&#8217;t supposed to be submissive</em>?  Is that it?  Is the whole thing a wizard of Oz curtain to distract us from the fact that they are deathly afraid of emotional non-dominant males?  Of female empowerment?????  That reminds me of this great essay I read on homophobia as <em>a form of anti-female sexism</em>.  Thought provoking stuff.  But I can&#8217;t find the damn link!  <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2145620/" target="_blank">This</a> is like it, but not as good.</p>
<p>Many times I can understand where someone is coming from, even if I completely disagree.  But this I just can&#8217;t empathize with &#8211; I cannot get myself spun around and looking out those eyes (not that I really want to &#8211; I&#8217;m just saying there&#8217;s usually some piece of insane logic I can base a convincing madman&#8217;s argument on, but I don&#8217;t see it here).  I&#8217;m not threatened by you loving or fucking anyone.  You know, within the standard bounds of not being a molester, etc.  But some people are.  And care enough to get wound up and protest against GLBT stuff.</p>
<p>So &#8211; more food to chew on: radical Islamists may have more (technically) gay sex per capita than the population of San Franscisco.</p>
<p>Man, that&#8217;s a piece of why they are so fucked up isn&#8217;t it?  The ones that really are gay can&#8217;t express their love without being put to death, and another big chunk of them wan&#8217;t sex so bad they&#8217;ll have sex with <em>men</em> they aren&#8217;t even attracted to.</p>
<p>I wonder if this is somehow less sinful than masturbation?  Because, you know, there is that.</p>
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